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grip force is extremely important in training. It has often addressed here! It should be not complicate this specialized training but do it anyway. Either through labs (such as with thicker handles, rope, etc.) or stand-alone business! Steve Maxwell and I show you a great exercise (brought back from our stay) from Costa Rica), which is not only for washing women



the great Steve Maxwell there are, as announced last week in an interview, so now again in 2011 experience in Austria. The slots are open, under info@naturtraining.at you can apply for the "Maxwell Feiss training camp on 8 / 9 July Register! I can guarantee one thing: There will be another great fun and a seminar with a difference! Some people have focused on the interview recently secured a place.

Yesterday we have a new training weapon of Karl Humers Hang diesel system for the first time tested. Of course videos were taken. But that does next. Clear that this thing even when Gorilla Camp II in April and at the seminar with Steve Maxwell in July in use. Rarely before I got my Waist "scream" so belongs to this torture! Too bad that this weapon is extremely rare yet is used. This is like "climbing rope plus pull-ups with additional weight Deluxe".

So as I said, who is fast on the safe side with the only appearance by Steve Maxwell in Central Europe 2011th Otherwise, the Americans see only in Iceland and Cyprus to host this year.

a good week start,

Dominik

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Today is my birthday, so we celebrate all of my friends are happy for me (and woe betide if not).
And those who today do not have a birthday, should celebrate too. Because it's Saturday, and Saturdays should always be celebrated, I think. Except you have a hangover, if that is the case: Poor You.

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Hello people!

is just a new interview went with me online. Bossk coach from Dortmund, a very innovative and motivated friend, me consulted on some issues. Also a great seminar date for summer 2011 will be published here. Listening best look:

http://blog.bossk.de/2011/02/23/interview-mit-dominik-feischl/

on this link, you can download the whole !

Next week I have a super grip force video prepared. Another souvenir from Costa Rica ;-)!

Until then,

Dominik

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training need not be complicated. The John Wood writes in a good blog kürzlich eindrucksvoll nieder und das ist genug an Leitsätzen fürs Wochenende. Haut rein!

A lot of folks (including yours truly) often take a look at someone who has been very successful in something and assume that there must be some secret to it.

The reality of the situation is almost always that the reasons behind that Success are very basic concepts, simply executed very well.

Joe Kinney, as you may or may not know, was the first man to close the Ironmind #4 gripper, and did so in a manner never seen before or since - it was like a tou in his hand.

Now, he certainly had some techniques and pieces of equipment that he came up with in order to train to do so...

... but the "Secret" to his training (if you could call it that) was this:

Every single workout he either got more reps or used a heavier weight that the workout before it.

Think about this for a moment... that's basically everything you would need to know about making training work summed up in about a dozen and a half words.

Why don't many people get the results they want out of training? They just kind of do "stuff" -- one day it's singles, the next day its German Volume training, and maybe a bit of wave cycle periodization the day after that.

Sure, they put the time in, and perhaps a fair bit of effort but such a random approach doesn't really build toward anything in the longrun.

And yes, it is also very easy to make things a lot more complicated than they need to be, and I fall into that trap all the time.

However, when it does happen, I go back to that statement - "OK, all I need to do is do more reps or a heavier weight than last time"

Amazingly, this always seemd to be "the answer"
not to mention a way to clear up my own self- imposed confusion.

This is also a pretty darn good mindset to have in terms of gripper training as well ~ understandably.

So, if you end up confused about your training, my advice is to take a tip from Joe Kinney and what you need to do should become as clear as day...

Train hard,
John Wood

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Another video souvenir from Costa Rica. This ladder was built in two hours with old wood and Co.! Excellent for hand over hand, pull-ups, etc.! My friend Steve Maxwell proves here that even with close to 60 years can be very, very explosive! Such jumps, even up to and hanging are far from easy! The women also watch shows or hand over hand, the film editor for 21 seconds!

to Gorilla Camp II on 9 April come in any case, three women and I know that the less than weak!

Glück Auf,

Dominik

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Gorilla Camp II

Turner are well known in terms of performance and aesthetically seen the most impressive athletes on earth. On www.power-quest.cc now a former world-class man can be heard in an interview with Jürgen rice. Thomas Zimmermann (see picture above), x-time Austrian champion, and find in his playing days in the world rankings at the front. Even a separate jump was named after him!

Even if only a few reach such a level some exercises from the Turner-Arsenal but also ring training should necessarily involve everyone in his personal training. Success guaranteed! Who controls his body well, can control other things. Coach Sommer wrote in his great book "Building the gymnastic body" that he could make now deadlift with a heavy weight, since he had the necessary body strength and power of gymnastics.

Here is another video highlight of traction seminar in Dortmund. A similar and much more is on 9 expected April at the Gorilla Camp II :

A good start to the week starts (with an even better training :-)),

Dominik

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Gorilla Camp - intensity has a name

The free slots for GORILLA CAMP II be less and less. Who on 9 April (Saturday) to be there, if we will be spending in the wild and unusual training methods should be a great day, quickly declared under info@naturtraining.at ! Those who still reports to Monday gets a bonus video sent!

Funny, I always find the many emails (almost daily) that I get when people protest, they are desperate for a the seminars of us to be there and and and. In most cases, is the holding empty air! Unfortunately, there are few that make it truly ACTION, but they are probably in many other areas, so "consistently". But there are plenty of others. And that's a comforting feeling.

Here is a photo gallery of the thing that we took last year successfully on the stage. Fun and fellowship including: http://www.humerkarl.net/gallery/main.php?g2_itemId=72963 !

a good weekend,

Dominik

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So here is finally the video from traction seminar last weekend with coach Bossk in Dortmund, where Charles has been with fellow gas! Since the mail has already been properly addressed!

The next highlight of 2011 is on the march: The rise GORILLA CAMP II on 9 April (Saturday) in the natural training center Thomasroith! Who wants to develop tension at its best, where to fun and camaraderie is not neglected and innovative training methods loves, which is right here! A Prowler, as shown above on the video call, including our own, and thus we can do is fine stuff. However, tires and more will come that day to use!

PAL Janis, the Baumkraxler has already left a message: "I'm looking forward to better delivery Camp Karl and Dominik sure call back right Am already on the extension of the slope Elan situation tense greetings to OÖ!!.! !! "

I would say: What are you waiting for? Already some people have subscribed to this fixed date!

Glück Auf,



Dominik PS: The contract with all details GORILLA CAMP II comes before the weekend!

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The heroic February pistol at 27.02. at 19:30 in the particle accelerator

Readers gun! - The reading boring show in the living room with atomic Wilko Franz and nasty guests. Texts, Krams and live music between Nonsense and Sensibility!

The February gun is great. Super guests and such. Laura Reichel, Markus "Strati" Strathaus , live music with Kai Freyer of rocket summer and I am there, too. Just super. All heroes.

That was the short version.

but I just can not so good, now the long version here. Which is partially stolen and also great! ;-))

The heroes:

got your forces, "The storytelling Four" by cosmic radiation, the change in their molecules, as they tried in a process developed by Strati spaceship to fly into space. Their headquarters is located in the living room on the atomic particle accelerator & Building at 55th Street Wolbecker Unlike most other super heroes have secret identities, the storytelling Four no: That is Mr. Markus Strathaus Stochastics is well known. On long stretches of her career were the four popular storytelling in public (otherwise than as telephone man), and were temporarily out of Strati like a company business. Frequently appear as guest characters from other series in the T & B Building on ....

beginning at 19:30! Dr. Doom will come later, but be there earlier, thanks to time machine, so you ran think.

Admission is free, the output in most cases happy.

LAURA REICHEL aka The inexplicable:

Laura Reichel, born 1988, lives and thinks in Dortmund. On paper only an examined health and child nurse, on selfsame she writes, since they can write. In the summer of 2009 for the first time participation in a poetry slam, since over a hundred performances at the German Poetry Slam - Cup in 2010. Since April 2010, organizer and presenter of the course "speech short, long sense" - the Poetry Slam in Dortmund.

/ / Laura Reichel, called The inexplicable is Stratis Wilkos wife and sister. Your super powers enable them to make themselves and other things or persons and to build inexplicable inexplicable scenarios. For a long time it met a little old-fashioned image of women the early 60s. They quickly fell into a swoon, was more interested in fashion and budget as to save the world and also the original restriction of their powers, only to be able to upgrade itself inexplicable, she made a rather weak team member. Your advanced skills, other things or persons to make inexplicable and inexplicable scenarios to produce, in which they can fly, were only added much later to reinforce their position. Their role was for years material for discussion in letters to the editor.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V4OUywwKI-A

MARKUS "STRATI" Strathaus aka Mr. Stochastics [by Krawehl!]:

quote from a friend: "If the binary code of a computer program according to the scheme 10101000111100 etc. work, then the code works in his brain: the car. Passion fruit cup. Nuclear war. Kitten. Hosiery boutique. Rolls, etc.. "Is it also really, really really a coincidence that a day later Helge Schneider directly occurs in Münster? - Yes, it is. Had but also what they can mean ...

/ / Four leaders of the storytelling is Doctor Mark Strathaus, called in the team Mr. stochastics. He can stretch his brain in any shape and use it thus very flexible. It occasionally serves as a living catapult, parachute or drip pad for everything imaginable. Actually he is a brilliant inventor and scientist. In every free minute he tinkers in his lab around in any of futuristic inventions that the storytelling can use four in the fight against evil. He is married since the February pistol with Laura Reichel, the inexplicable. One of his greatest Achievements is the discovery of the "Negative Zone", a universe of antimatter. Strati is convinced idealist, and his stories are always oriented towards the common good or to others. If it is to cope with a major presence, he is working to exhaustion, until the problem is not solved, even if the leads to conflicts with his wife Laura.

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KAI FREYER [rocket summer] aka The Singing:
rocket summer is actually a trio of Bochum / Münster and moves playfully between melancholy and euphoria, between drifting and reduced guitar pop ballads. One might describe the music as "Blumfeld meets Belle & Sebastian" to discover some "Kammerpop character" and maybe a "touch of Morrissey" for themselves - the band itself says only three things: "Rocket Summer Had a TV series, then a mixture of Space Night and Mr. Rossi seeks to connect the luck. cello at Wah-wah and distortion, just makes sense! rocket summer also works in winter. "To readers gun guitarist and vocalist Kai comes alone, but you never know ...

/ / The Sing (in the English original The Sing) real name Kai Freyer, a petrified guitar has with superhuman strength and is virtually unnachsingbar. He is the most tragic figure in the stories of storytelling Four. Forced to the rest of his life ugly songs to sing, although Strati tried incessantly, the guitar back to to transform the desperate, he often in his fate. His love for the deaf sculptress Alicia Masters is just as tragic, as Kai lives in constant fear, she loved him only out of pity or because they hear songs can not be ugly. In the rough surface hides a good-hearted tone, so his friends would listen to at any time. Significantly, his eternal quarrels and fights with Wilko Franz, who loves to tease him because of the ugliness of his songs.

http://www.raketensommer.de

Wilko FRANZ aka The human vegetables :

is Wilko-Franz-being simply gorgeous authentic ...

/ / Wilko Franz, including the human vegetables (in the original English Human Couch), is the brother of Laura Reichel and has the ability to single body parts or his entire body can flake out spontaneously to . It can for example perform asleep typing with his fingers or even throw watercolors. In addition, it can be. He is the youngest member of the storytelling four (when starting gun, the reader just 15 years old) and embodies the impetuous young people, using fast Cars and women and write any extreme sport on TV is too dangerous. Later, the reader gets a gun he something more adult appearance, and his relationships are more serious and sustained. He also shows more sensitivity in dealing with his sister.

http://wwwilko.blogspot.com/

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We live in different worlds

unbestreibar One can say that the number of role players is manageable. Added to this is aggravating that distributes small number of very many RPGs. A third split, you bothers me personally is quite another.
feel more and more often I am compelled to say that I run a completely different hobby than most other role-players I know and knew. Usually I would say I practice the same hobby but in a different intensity or even the original form of role play, but proven, some of them feel attacked and justify their Attitude rather with other preferences.

Now I say yet another hobby, because it seems to me increasingly incompatible with other players. The role play is often being reduced to playing. And I am not one of the people who operate only in theory and role-play round for no more or only play every 8 weeks. I play an active role play. But my hobby is not only the role-playing, but the RPG itself. This goes so far that I now only difficult with a purely playing role-players to run laps together. If we roll the dice, I think about the dice mechanics, they evaluated and consider whether and how to replace it. I'm thinking what style of play is appropriate where, when miniatures are Voteil when narrative struggles. When we play, I think about the Plotstuktur to and how, what and where I would do something different and watch over the freedom of choice. I'm looking through the system weaknesses and try to close it, or the performance claims and observe the rounds and try to improve it, by keeping to Aussschau techniques. I make all things instinctively, because for me one of them.

And when they go home I read in my spare time, role-playing systems, putting stuff on their own modules, write game world backgrounds, planning campaigns, drawing maps or pictures. And if I do not do I research backgrounds in history or science that interest me and me are useful for the role play. And if I do not do, I discuss in RPG forums or inform me and write in blogs.

That's all for me, role-playing. And all the pure rolling "players" are not available for this and do that, therefore, almost alone. And alone makes a company known to be no fun hobby, but it is stressful and exhausting. It's like a sack of bricks, which one drags behind. I look around no enthusiasm, no energy and no passion. For any change that requires a minimum level of initiative, you have to fight against massive resistance, because it is "not the rights of players to the RPG hits. The do indeed play.
It lacks the creative Zuschub by other people, the mutual ignition of ideas. The joint, stimulating creativity. I am interested in playing material from other players as much if not more, than their own material. How it works, it creates together and gives each other a bit about the game and welded together. I can work with me a little more entertaining than imagining together on creative projects. It gives me so little material to create for myself.
This player base from Multihobbyisten is so small that they are in international forums and blogs must band together to create critical masses. In this sense you are out there just as my team-mates, such as those with whom I would much rather run it honestly, because I have them in the environment and familiarity is a prerequisite course. Internet dates are not a substitute. I actually know only a single person role-playing as a hobby operates similarly complex. Or no, it's different. I know at least two people, but sometimes I have the feeling that it is going on isolated similar because it does nothing together.
"Before," it was felt differently. As you role-play operation on many levels, including in the round. "Before," because that was necessary, because the Internet was good for not speaking tube to the outside world, you only had to play the role of books and the information in it were very thin and you had to fill all the gaps themselves. The braced together, if not acceptable because the alternative was not to play. Today seems to me rather to be the exception and it feels like one of the last survivors, while has prevailed in the majority of the simpler light version of role-playing, which I can really be gain nothing: Take a system, no matter what , then a game world book is, indeed everything in it, play something and somehow and then go home. Not only think about it. So quite a dependent variety. I absolutely intolerable!

But I mean it the way it reads. I really feel that something has been lost. Everywhere you railed on MMORPGifizierung in Warhammer3FRPG or D & D4 example, this applies in my opinion, not directly to the control systems - this is more a symptom - but for the whole posture RPG. The argument job can I also take very little seriously, because job time has nothing to do with free time, so you separate these two times, too. The people who have no free time and have no joy on the job (Otherwise they'd not an RPG) I honestly do harm. In addition, there are enough young people who have a lot of time. I myself know a few younger people in other rounds, which also was not much to start.
What is left of the day? The games, though twice a week brings to me more into the background because it can not go along with the other activities that run more productive and I invest more time because it is sufficient (eg exciting Internet projects in the community) and that should not really be so. Finally, it is still to play. I do not think you wake up the player base hau-jerk from the vegetative state can. Obviously, they want as their ... pursue another hobby. And they should too, but what I lack, the like-minded Multihobbyisten. The internet is the gateway to the world but, ironically, are the role players, that you could tear something in common that one before in the neighborhood was now further away than ever before. Perhaps other role players have also done very different experience (or even more disappointing?). This is not just pure whining, I am working on the problem. Maybe I should be more concerned with the concept of role play chat on Skype and the like, which seems to work in other rounds so, and which makes it easier with dedicated, interested and often creative role-players to play together.

Are your impressions comparable? Do you have a dedicated, stand-together team of mutually stimulating whole blood role players behind you, or did you just because everything used only in the quiet little room alone to produce for yourself? What solutions do you see? If Skype's future rounds? Maybe you only interested in himself playing and you want to have as little as possible with other players and role-play to do outside the sessions.
But as you should have found here then?

you expressed here or in RSP-Blogs Forum

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New toys II on 9 April - First harbingers may be

Sorry, Youtube has the highlight video from the traction-Seminar with coach Bossk in Dortmund, where Karl Humor Secretary at the weekend, was still his problems, but I submit to in Balde. The boys definitely have two days where neat gas. At the bottom is slightly different résumé!

The journey continues now! I may be solemnly announced: On Saturday 9 April increases the GORILLA CAMP II in my fields on our renewed vigor hillside position with me and Karl. But not only swung, and leg training is so clearly not too short, we have a lot of new toys in the Talon! UK Now you can register for the courses are very popular. Click the "ticket" for the coveted event: info@naturtraining.at

would in this sense, be happy if we Gorilla Camp II on 9 April as neat rock!

Dominik PS: Karl and Bossk had great fun along with hard training - a matter which is also guaranteed in our seminars, and to good fellowship:

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The beautiful weather of course leaves the Outdoor-exercisers breathe after a severe winter so far! My Swiss friend Janis ( http://crossfit-kreuzlingen.blogspot.com training) regularly outdoors in a forest-fitness course. In addition to conventional and proven exercises like pull-ups ( -www.klimmzuege trainieren.com ), dips and push-ups he makes things like the video up here. Tree climbing. Do something the kids like, but which also brings a lot of the adults, because it requires coordinated together with the fact that this is also extremely stressful and operated at the pump properly. You need good grip and traction! And the beautiful: Something like fun too. A warning to me but approved: Always check up in advance whether the tree is actually climbing is also. And this one should also assess themselves well Once near the top and then does not everything come down a problem! In a few days there

first video highlights from traction seminar in Dortmund with coach Bossk, where Karl Humor his knowledge was also the best!

a good week start,

Dominik

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THE TREASURE OF THE INCA

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Another Sunday, another nice walk. This time it was a trip with his mother and favorite Ilinca, who visited me over the weekend and had sunshine, blue skies and cheerfulness in the same suitcase.
short pause - and later, the trip goes on towards the Hofgarten. There again I may shoot a cramped smile photo for those who do not have my grim photos soo happy times and prefer to see a good mood. Incidentally, I have good mood, I just asked this Lächelei pretty exhausting!

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A beginner should not be a beginner RPG RPG! (Guest Post)

Today a commentary of a friend. I'd like to keep the story from the virtual oblivion (unless it here in this little corner at all possible). He is already 1-2 more years old and speaks to an interesting point on entry level role-plays.
It may be that the situation for beginners role playing in the last year may have changed, but here it is reached exclusively by German products, and he is certainly still valid. At least if you expect as a beginner a somewhat more extensive role-playing experience.

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you can discuss the article in RSP Forum .

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said in an interview Florian Don shows:

One way to make role-playing beginner friendly. There are about ten years in Germany is not really interesting role-playing game with which you can start playing just as it was before. If you can not read the first 200 pages and must be understood before one can derive the first round. There are various attempts in different directions, but all the sick on two problems: some are just too complicated, too expensive, too complex for people who want just a taster. The others are in their background worlds too extreme. End-time role or role-playing games, as has the "world of darkness," which is in its basic rules, very simple, but a background that appeals to beginners do not.
Such a project, with one starter again brings to the table easier to role-play would be an important project for the next time.

Source: civil bogus blog

I find so exciting. For about 10 years, he writes, there is no German-grade entry-level role-play more. So about, and it has appeared since DSA4 The black eye is no longer as easily accessible RPG be described. Obviously. Well, a widely read opinion on the web.

good, but the situation is really so bleak? What should an entry-level role-play offer for all, so it can be declared as an entry-level role-playing game? Let me think:

* Introduction: What is role play? With a beautifully detailed example, related example.
* Short and crisp rules to get to the point, but it is very playable.
* Tips and hints for game master and players to get a first on game nights.
* Ready to Buy start playing adventure.
* A harmonious setting in which one takes into quickly. I agree with Florian that it should not be lifted.

Well, many publishers are trying to fill this gap with a beginner or intro kit. These are usually available for free, simplified versions of the underlying rules. Here are some pages the background, with a little luck, an adventure and a few archetypes, to get started right away. In Germany, this practice is unfortunately not as common as in the U.S.. But there are some beginners kits here. Pegasus provides such a kit for Cthulhu, for Midgard, there is a beginner. Otherwise it looks really pretty but mau. Im Tanelorn gibt es eine ausführlichere Liste mit Intro-Kits, die meisten are in English.

such good-Intro kits, starter sets, etc. for beginners as role-playing game? Of course not, because there are none to buy at the store. The newcomers, who informed the internet is probably hitting them. The trend but it is probably more a matter of interest for role players, who look for new systems. In addition to this thin booklet can often put only bad because they are supposed to induce the purchase of the actual rules - and that may well be full mammoth regulations.

What about now with serious alternatives? Recently I looked through my own RPG cabinets looking after a German role-playing game with easy rules. For an entry-level role-playing is by no means only interesting for beginners! Not at all, it is supposed to be role players, who appreciate that in the background a light, catchy, fast rules do his service. Unfortunately, my closets because really gave her much. I combed through the role-playing game stores - but found no great options.

What now? Is there really no German entry-level role-playing game? Why not? And why that gap is not filled? Ah jo. Of course there have been attempts to fill this gap. There will be an important criterion but forgotten and this is my thesis: A Beginner

RPG can not be a beginner RPG.

This sounds paradoxical, but I mean it really is. Being a beginner is the role of full-fledged RPG. There must be source books, campaigns, miniatures, all just bells and whistles. The beginner should not yet have the feeling that only a little to have on the training course, and then only to "properly" can get started! No, you would like to stay with the game that you start. Especially since a "real" role-playing game probably would have anyway quite different rules, and then has the great effort. Because let's face it, the first step is to persuade at all down with friends and role play to operate, in fact, the less difficult step. Sure, for some it may cost to overcome. But basically it is then easy to play. The real hurdle that makes entry difficult is to get familiar with a complex set of rules. It takes him a "beginner's RPG" and stopped only when he can remain the same as well. The

until about 10 years, traded as an entry-RPG The Dark Eye makes them available. It was incidentally one of the most successful German RPG! It was an awful lot of publications. Beginners was given so of course the feeling of not playing anything but the black eye. Even today I sometimes meet people with the word role play can not do anything, but then when I say The Dark Eye (or perhaps they even say it!), immediately know what's what!

My fear is this: On a German entry-level role-playing game so we have to wait until a slot system to such blossomed, or a large German role-play again the way back place, and that is what it once was.

Bye,

the fool.

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Anyone who reads my blog regularly knows, my friend and mentor "Charles Farmer" Humor . Who motivation for his training needs and an excuse will have less should watch the video above.

And then even the short interview with my trainer friend Bossk Listen from Dortmund. There is increasing tension on Saturday, a seminar ( bossk@bossk.de ), where Karl has extensive know-how for the best. Here is the interview :

http://bossk-kettlebell.de/media/interview_mit_karl_humer.mp3

also Harald Hofer, with http://mpbody.blogspot.com / operates a commendable blog, currently brings out a great interview series. Here in Part I of the survey a tough Navy Seals. From such people, I had in the past already Marine Mike Bruce several times here as a guest, you can always learn was:

http://mpbody.blogspot.com/2011/02/getting-to-know-navy-seal-1.html

Have fun with the motivation syringes,

Dominik PS: All information is for Iceland seminar with Steve Maxwell in June it already on www.maxwellsc.com

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We were in Costa Rica on course sea. And will have the sun and enjoyed the water. And guess correctly: well trained. There are about like everywhere in the world all kinds of stones. Many go past it carelessly, we had a vicious circle heraussen with three exercises below. Shoulders of a 60-pound stone reacting, and pressures of a 50-kg chunk and throwing a 40-kg candidates. The respective alternately for one minute with 10 seconds rest in between and you get a sweat. Heave stones is a completely different movement like similar things with the barbell. The pilot takes these things differently each time, do not get a "groove" and it is therefore something very functional. It strengthens, together with the large muscle groups also handle things like huge!

In June, in Iceland ( www.maxwellsc.com ) Steve Maxwell and I are at seminars including those methods to explain in more detail!

Until then, let the stones roll, went

Dominik